Glad you're enjoying it! Who let the dogs out, indeed lmao.
I don't have any current plans to revamp Metatron art, aside from getting more expressions from her. What don't you like about her pose? And are you saying that you think Celica art needs a rework too?
I do like catgirls, so somewhere down the road it's very possible~
Hmm.. It would be really cute if Meta-chan shows more expressions yippers.
And for Celica my first impression of her was "A sleepy magician girl i thought that she was a loli at first lmao " Actually haha she is perfect in my opinion her personality and story so far made the impression the brr i forgot to write that she was hawt on the CGI "No need a rework for her more story and affection is a go for me yepyep .
Catgirl I'll be waiting for that day to happen nyahah😼
Anyway thanks for the reply give ya the best of regards!
Right now I don't think anything requires more than 20, in the future some will require more. Greatsword has pretty limited trait support right now, but will be significantly expanded on next update!
Most weapon skills/weapon-specific traits are only usable with that weapon, but you can have 2 weapons in your loadout and switch between them. I went with sword and shield + greatsword as my new combo, at least until the next update.
Weapon users mostly don't have to spend that much to get a weapon up to snuff, so you can afford to have 2-3 maxed
We're far enough away that I don't have it 100% locked down. The current plan is to focus on individual or small-group harem character endings (ex. Metatron, or Metatron/Sarah), as well as larger-scale endings based on which corruption you went hard on and if you sided with one of the five big goddesses.
Sorta like, idk, Fire Emblem, where you get a couple main routes and then character postscripts based on your supports/who you married?
There will probably be a generic harem postscript as well, it's not really my thing but I know some people really want it so hopefully it won'tbe too much work lol.
Contemplating starting anew just to see everything, even if all the new stuff is after you get the group as a whole. Half expecting Ashley to prank Metatron (more than she does, anyway), Metatron has had enough of the pranks and depending on how aware she is with her emotions either quite serious or pranking Ashley back. Ashley and Metatron: the prank wars!
I've officially watched too many cheesy movies, because after saying this I keep envisioning Sam and Sarah betting on who will do a better job pranking and trying to get the others involved by betting on who does a better job with the pranks and how devious or silly they are.
Something I noticed, on the new update. Picked a fight, and haste was already "on", and it seems to be on at the start of every fight. Was this an intentional thing, or not? I'd rather decide to add haste manually over it being on to begin with. (Mostly to decide what's the best way to handle the mana)
Otherwise, liking the "how much HP is left on the critters" and new stuff a lot!
You can disable autocast in the rightclick->abilities menu. But yes, people complained about channels not defaulting to autocast, so I did that.
Probably in the next update, I'll make it toggleable when you acquire the ability, both to briefly explain channels and so you can pick whichever you want.
Yes, sorry if it's not clear, but the corruption unlocks are coming soon.
Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for the compliment! And that you got a good amount of playtime out of it, as well!
V21 beta testing is going well and fairly stable now, I think tomorrow I'll be able to post it here. It adds another 4-ish hours of content, so you should have some payoff soon~
What a game. I'm just "starting" but it really good, perhaps a little lack of illustration. But without futher spoiler, should i avoid either of the 3 corruptions if i don't want any "Bad Ending" ? (i kinda want the "best" one in my reach ^^")
None of the corruptions are evil! They're harmless below 20, and will unlock additional god-specific ending much later. In the meantime, getting above 20 will require you to make a conscious choice ingame. So don't worry about picking up a bit of incidental corruption, you can bang the succubi as much as you want without locking yourself into anything.
I will update the opening in a month or two, and we're starting to get lewd CGs and more custom backgrounds! Glad you're enjoying it so far!
Sarah's very existence proves that Aether and Nether can coexist - though figuring out how to master both will be difficult. Abyssal is, unfortunately, completely incompatible with anything else. Gods are jealous creatures.
For the time being, don't worry about screwing yourself - it's safe to learn magic and sleep with succubi/angels. Any major choices will be telegraphed!
I'm genuinely glad to hear that! I'm finishing up the upcoming mega-update now, should be out in a few days at worst.
Frost nova broken skill but i like it a lot. Cant help you in every battle but still betta ver. of this skill can help nail every common battle without even looking at your hp bar.
Haha. Yeah, chain-stuns are pretty strong (and frustrating to play against - looking at you Aspasia). The next update will make it harder to chain CC, but won't nerf those abilities directly.
Played again to test my beloved Frost Nova beta and seen new status effect that “prevent” stacking skills like FN but i kinda still can freeze enemys with it (even with 75% chance its still hard). My question: Did this suppose to happen? Because i defeat Deep Woods boss, i forget what was her name so i call her Fire Baby for now.
If you're on PC/Linux/Mac, yes, it should naturally save.
Renpy Android is kinda weird, I think you have to manually move some files around 'cuz the saves are sorta linked to the APK? I know it's possible, just don't know exactly how it works.
When does the game end? I feel like there is nothing else to do, but I don't remember encountering a screen saying something like: End of the current version.
Please add another layer of categories sortet by spell attribute. It just gets messy if i have to scoll through all that single target spells to get to the fire spells. Furthermore I would like to have in-fight-info on the enemy which spell attributes it is weak to if there is a rock paper scissors system.
The progress menu has been completely revamped for the next update, it'll be easy to find fire spells there now! If you mean in battle, you can hide spells you don't need and manually sort in any order you want from the right-click Abilities menu.
If you're on Android, it's temporarily disabled due to a Renpy bug about text entry. Otherwise, it happens about 2 lines into the game. When I add a cheat menu (Soon(tm)), it'll be changeable at any time.
Haha, fair enough. There are around... idk 30-40 sex scenes currently, covering a pretty decent amount of vanilla stuff. Fair number of blowjobs, missionary, doggystyle cowgirl, thighjobs, cunnilingus, footjob, paizuri, naizuri, one armpitjob for some reason, a handjob... idk I'm probably forgetting some.
I was wondering if there was some way to tell if theres anything Im missing? Ive been playing for the better part of a day and Ive exhausted all dialogue options/hangout scenes. Not sure if im missing anything in the current update or not. (and the gallery doesnt help, since it doesnt have everything in it and crashes my game when I click on the stuff that is in there)
The character scenes all list their requirements, so if there isn't anything above Metatron 10 affection, there's no hidden 12 aff.
Badon is the end of the plot, will be extended in the next update soon.
Gallery will be revamped in the future back into the game proper since it was only ever meant as a way to see the choices you missed in the opening, every other lewd scene is repeatable already.
Hope you've been enjoying it, the next update is.... somewhere around 2-5 work days away!
Writing for this game is nice combat is very interesting as well looking forward to more. Also has there been any consideration for adding sound/visual effects for attacks it may add more impact to the combat. I apologize if this was a question that was asked before.
Glad you're enjoying the game! Yes, I'd love to get effects over time, it's just.... very much a work in progress. Finding halfway decent quality animations that are big enough to not look bad but don't take my commission budget isn't easy.
I just want to add this, I appreciate that while the choices are (mostly) cosmetic, it still has an effect and they respond appropriately. I was playing a game that it made zero difference if the MC was a saint or an absolutely slimeball, the next part was exactly the same (so an illusion of a choice). I HATE that, it's like "what's the point of playing a given way if the results are the same?" Seriously doubt that if I was a jerk to Celica that she'd be OK with it (lightning storm, maybe...or something worse!). Same with most of the others, I think if I was a jerk they wouldn't be anywhere near as friendly (Sam, might still be OK)
Just need to wait for the update, and see if Sarah will be OK with a headpat!
Glad you're enjoying it! I try to reference the choices where possible, though it's not always obvious ingame that a given line has been swapped out based on a past choice. The 'major' choices you'll make (one upcoming soon) will have much larger effects.
Too many actual branches and writing the game becomes unfeasible, sadly.
I don't mind if it's not obvious, just that if the MC is nice or a jerk, there should be a difference in how the others respond. Looking forwards to seeing how Ashley and Metatron will react to each other once Metatron had thawed and Ashley quits pranking Metatron (errr...Ashley WILL stop pranking Metatron, right?)
I didn't mean adding a headpat option to Sarah, just if she'd be OK with it :) I figure Maya will be the only one with headpats (she is a dog after all) but that doesn't stop me from wondering if the demure succubus likes headpats!
Oh, I'm sure Sarah would be into it. That actually sounds like a fun little scene when I get further down her romance route; exploring the succubi trying to deal with relationships that are more than just sex, and the emotional aspects of it considering how attuned to emotion they are.
I'm not sure exactly what you're requesting, sorry, but I am trying to improve the android version UI so there's less reliance on hover tooltips there. The next update will make the progress menu more mobile-friendly at least.
Is the problem that tap and hold tooltips aren't working?
Aha, no harm done! There are 3 files in the download section, one each for Windows/Linux, Android, and Macintosh.
I'm not fussed about pronouns, sir is fine.
If you do end up playing the android version, I'm open to feedback on how to improve it! It's hard for me to test and I don't get many comments on it despite it being half my downloads on itch haha.
As I like to say, Metatron is an angel in more ways than one! I've always had a soft spot for kuuderes that melt into being incredibly sweet, and Metatron hits that itch for me haha.
Glad you're enjoying! And hopefully Metatron's lewd scene/CG next update will continue delivering~
Metatron smiling caused me to like this game even more than I already do, seeing her understanding her emotions and not just being a weapon is wonderful. Sarah's still my favorite, but Metatron is rapidly approaching a rival to her! Think Sarah and Metatron would be up for a threesome?
Curiosity question, does it ultimately matter who the partner is for the adventure parts? Each has their pros and cons, but will I be able to beat an area as easily with Celica as I will with Sarah or Sam?
Metatron is an angel in more ways than one! And yes actually, those two are probably the most likely for a threesome, tied with Sarah/Ashley, and liable to be the first I write.
It depends on the area. Some allies have better team support, and some may have special scenes in some areas, ex. Celica gets a big moment in the slaver encounter. None of them are super important though.
I'd probably say that Maya and Aspasia are the most underwhelming party members currently, but not bad with a support build.
I know this is a 2 months old message but what is the big Celica scene? I made sure to do that encounter with her as my partner and she wasn't involved at all?
She has a few comments on some of the routes, and depending on your choices near the end she may take matters into her own hands with the boss in an extra moment that gets referenced later in camp. It sounds like it might be easier to miss them than I realized, though.
Are there no further zones/story after the floodplains/Badon or am I missing a trigger or something? I'm hoping the latter cause I've thoroughly been enjoying this game so far. Gameplay feels a little generic, but I can't say I don't love me a solid rpg, especially with such well written characters and dialogue. Also nice pfp lmao
Correct, current zones/story ends at Badon. The next update, probably ~2 weeks out (maybe), will push it forward.
Glad you're enjoying the game, and thanks for commenting! I'm slowly improving the gameplay as I go, making an entire engine from scratch as a newbie coder is an uphill battle.
Oh boy Sam looks divine now im glad she got a rework. Kinda buggy when selecting the skills "using cp" but other than that everything else is cool looking forward for Maya art
I'm glad you're enjoying it, and the new Sam art! Maya art is definitely in this update, she's super cute, jfc did a great job with her. I should probably preview more of her expressions lol.
Would you mind explaining more of 'Kinda buggy when selecting the skills "using cp"'? I'm happy to try to fix it, just not sure what the issue is.
Oh yes about that when i reset the game to see the changes that part was fine. But on the part when i needed to put my stat "Time to get swole" before fighting the abyss thingy when clicking that option the game keeps crashing so i just fight without stat and skill like a champ apart Meta-chan did the job.
Maybe is just my tablet but is not really a big deal for me.
The "com.cryswar.divinedawn-release.apk" file is android. I should probably rename the files at some point, just been using what renpy spits out for the name.
Couple of things, does Metatron auto-revive? I was fighting the hob shaman and his cronies and Metatron would go done to zilch (or lower) and at the end of the round, she's got 5 hp. Either the spell I cast on her caused it (which still wouldn't make sense) or Metatron can't be defeated, YAY! Was about the only was I was able to beat the shaman too...
Regarding Maya, I found "head pat?" option BEYOND hilarious, more so because Metatron was my partner. Seeing Metatron petting Maya and Maya's response was wonderful!
One question which may influence things down the road. I keep my stats fairly balanced, Strength and Magic will be higher but it's like Strength and Magic are 11 or 12, and the rest are around 6 or 7. How important are each of the stats? Strength and magic are obvious, but am I better suited to having strength and magic the focus, or is more balanced a better way to go? Some of that was because I needed 5 insight to learn some pieces of magic, but now I'm wondering if I should rearrange things a bit...
So normally, an ally that goes to 0 hp stays there until healed, and can't act until they get above 0hp. Regen was erroneously kicking in and essentially reviving her every turn. Fixed now, thanks for the report!
Maya patpats are the way and the truth, and Metatron is rapidly becoming team big sis lmao.
Your primary stat/stats should always be capped for easiest progression, I usually just set them to auto-grow. The rest... kinda depends on what you're doing. 10 focus is enough for 1 turn cooldown reduction, or 10 insight lets you ignore most armor/resistance. 5-10 vitality also gives access to some great traits.
You can respec as needed, it's a bit cheat-y but the important thing is to have fun.
Glitch report, maybe this is fixed and it doesn't actually affect anything, but trying to defeat the slavers in the third area before Badon resulted in Metatron's pic showing in the background. She didn't join the bad guys, just her picture was there, and didn't go away until I talked to her at camp.
One thing I do like about returning to earlier areas is you might run across a couple of teammates. I've seen Sarah and Ashley, and Sam and Ashley so far, and it's neat seeing others training too.
Thanks for the report. I've heard some weirdness about Metatron there, will try to sort it.
Yeah, I'd like to add a few more characters interacting or at least showing up during exploration. It's fun, flavorful, and adds a sense of life to things. Could even have 'em stick around for a surprise battle or something; I don't want to make the game 3+ character parties, but in some situations it'd make sense to have it happen.
This is more oversight than anything, but I was fighting the wolf alpha and his two buddies. It was down to just the alpha, but it was still showing wolf b (who was already defeated) was still having poison damage...
I was a bit shocked at how easily the hob shaman and his two friends beat me, guessing "level 13" is the minimum because I'm at level 12 and he slaughtered me and Celica! Is there an ideal partner or did RNG just go against me again? (I think RNG hates me for the most part)
Question on being attuned to magic so I can learn Aether magic. Magic is at 11 but it shows as being unable to learn it. Is Attuned a skill or trait learned, or is there some other thing I'm not getting because if it says "every 10 of magic" and I don't see if anywhere, and I missing something?
(Sorry if I keep bothering ya here, it's just easier for me!)
No worries, it's fine to post here, I check it 1-2 times a day.
I've heard the poison thing, not sure why yet but I'll look into it. Probably just order of doing poisons vs clearing dead enemies from list, though it's possible the poison is killing the enemy? idk.
The hob shaman and co are level 18, enemies in the Expanse range from 13 to 16 otherwise. It's a bit of a jump from Outskirts, tho it's 9-13. idk. I feel like the level req could probably do a better job of explaining you can enter at 13 but should probably be 16+ to beat it?
You can learn one school of magic for every point of attunement (shown in the right-click stats menu). If you started with magic that takes up your first slot, or learned one elsewhere?
On the levels, I was def under leveled for the hobs - the problems I had with the lone hob should have clued in that I wouldn't make it. As far as explaining "level expected to beat it" goes, I would wait and see how many are struggling with the hobs. Might be a good idea, but barring boss fight I did OK at level 12, so I'm not sure it's needed yet.
Regarding the attunement, I started with wind magic, so that would have been the initial school. I was able to learn water, fire, and nether without any issues, but Aether said I needed to be attuned. Does that mean that all of those are in the same school? I would assume wind fire water earth are all just "school of elemental magic", would nether count for that too?
Having gotten Metatron at high affection, it's amazing at seeing her transform. Wondering if I get Aspraia to high affection will she transform similarity? Seeing Metatron smile was really nice, and it's interesting seeing how she's evolving with both Ashley and Sarah. Still think if there's another race war it'll be because Ashley pranked Metatron too many times. I'm not sure who has less self-perservation, Sam or Ashley. Also, and I can't stress this enough, seeing all the friends evolve has been really wonderful. Finding out WHY Sam and Celica dislike each other, Celica's motivations in general, Metatron slowly understanding emotions and her attachment to Sarah and MAYBE Ashley, it is really well done. Both trust and affection dialogues are really fun to read!
Attunement should block you off of the base elements too. The checks for those might not be working right, idk, I'll check.
The character growth is definitely one of my favorite aspects of the game, glad to hear you were enjoying it! Metatron has gone through a lot of growth already, and everyone has their goals and dreams. I'm really looking forwards to explaining more of them, their pasts and futures, and especially how they all interact. Not enough of that yet.
Will fit in what I can of that this coming update, aside from the mega Deepwoods stuff and Metatron/Celica lewd starts I mostly just want to write.
Having gotten more affection and trust out of Metatron, Sarah, and Ashley I've really amazed at how detailed and thorough the affection and trust things are. Ashley had no problem talking about aspects but Sarah was... wow, weird to see her so mad about it. Ashley being Compassion and Greed seems odd but does explain a few things! It's also interesting seeing Metatron warming up to Sarah, almost like a big sister might. Rather suspect Ashley and Metatron will never really get along though...
One thing I was curious on, when you first start out going to Badon, Ashley is willing to do sex battle training, but that option is not available for Sarah Is it because Ashley is just more open about it, will Sarah eventually be able to sex battle the the player, will they tag team the MC... (no! Bad musical! Don't let fantasy get in the way!) ANYWAY, what's the story on why Sarah starts off not being able to sex battle? I'm just curious.
Hey, glad you're enjoying the character interactions! They're honestly my favorite part of the game to work on. I can't wait to do more between the girls as well haha, Sarah and Metatron in particular.
Ashley and Metatron... well, you might enjoy the next update if you're interested in that.
As for sex battles - the honest answer is that they're coded very poorly, take a lot of work, and (imo) all feel too similar. I have a plan to fix that in the next few months, but until then I don't want to add any more on the current, mediocre system.
Rest assured that Sarah will get a proper one, making full use of her various... attributes, when that gets fixed.
I have a request, could you put the soundtrack on youtube? I have the demi human song and Celica's theme stuck in my head and I want to listen to them when not at my pc.
Only for the songs I actually own, but... I guess I could do that actually? It never occurred to me before lol.
The versions I use in the game are compressed, but you can find them in the game/audio folder in the meantime! Celica and Maya's themes are named as such until such time as I decide their 'official' names.
I'm gonna be real with you here chief, I have the youtube thing set up and ready to go, but I've been struggling to decide what to name the songs. Probably kinda sad, but I wanted to give them unique, memorable names, and I've been stretched thin with commissions and stuff.
Sorry for the delay, but don't worry, I haven't forgotten!
No worries just checking in, Might I recommend naming Celica's "The Curious Mage" or something like that I feel the word curious really fits how it sounds.
Now, I love reading but damn does training magic have SO much of it I found it hard to read things after a while and sadly had to put the game down. This not to say the reading is bad as I love it and it has made me laugh quite a bit. The only advice I'd give is to try to make the unique character encounters a bit less challenging I got two shot by the girl at the bridge.
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Also I'd like to ask if the slots of magic also count towards any progression of magic like going from one rank in fire to another, I ask because I used all of mine to learn all the magic and I don't know if it's the type of thing where you can be jack of all trades but not very good at any of them type of deal.
Wind and Aether magic can get pretty wordy, since they're very technical. Most of the others aren't as bad. Glad to hear you enjoyed the writing overall!
Right now there's only one rank of each magic, but there will be more ranks in the future, and they'll also take attunement slots. As a mage, it should be fine to pick up one rank of most, but you probably won't be able to supermax every element in the long term. Definitely won't have the trait points for it anyways haha.
I understand, and absolutely agree. The story is just too good to let this game stay the way it is currently.
This project should be pumped full with money!
I just wish I wouldn't be just a NEET, so I could contribute to great games like this. Because damn sure I have a lot of free time, I may as well try to learn how to draw some artwork for this game, but honestly I can promise nothing.
Anyway, I suppose there should be at least some pepole who are interested in contributing free artwork for this game. Maybe it would be good to add some notice to some game menu, that you are looking for free artists, just in case you accept any third-party artwork at all. As I remember there was a scene with Sarah, that really looked like it was made by some other artist, beacuse Sarah does not have a red colored stripe in her hair on her standing images.
Hah, don't worry, I feel you. I have NOWHERE near enough money to support even 10% of the creators I want to. Up until a few years ago, I was kinda in NEET territory too.
I am spending basically everything I get from patreon on commissions so we're slowly getting art/music sorted - a fair number of character themes are custom work now, and I'm working with a number of artists for backgrounds, character art, and CGs. Reaching out to two possibilities today actually.
Not sure what the legality of free art is, especially for commercial usage - I'll check into it. We've gotten some really nice fanart over time though, so maybe?
Cool, I'm also not sure about the legal stuff, but maybe I can try to point you in the right direction, as I already have some slight clues about it.
In case you would like to protect the third-party assets contributed into your project from being NTR-ed away by copyright lunatic trolls, then you may need to make your contributors sign a so called "CLA", that means "Contributor License Agreement", what would make it sure, that you are allowed to use the third-party assets in your project, while the contributors can also be happy about their rights. At least I suppose it works this way in case of big and important open source projects. The huge drawback of this is that the thing makes it impossible to accept stuff from random anonymous pepole on the internet, so I would advise against it.
A probably much better way to be legally cool, is to formally define in lawyerspeak some kind of general auto-applying policy on every third-party contributions you may receive. For example make a public statement of that everyone who posts into some kind of special forum topic on your discord, accepts to allow you to use their stuff under a Creative Commons license. I know that it doesn't sound very convincig this way, but for example have a look here, to see how the thing actually works anyway.
But sure you need a lawyer for this, and that would mean again, the need for more money.
So, back to the topic on money. There is a common saying in my country, which if translated to english means something like this:
"It's better to stand on two legs than one."
So, I mean that I noticed, you do not have a subscribestar account, and only rely on patreon for getting money. It's rather common amongst adult games to also accept support through https://subscribestar.adult/ , just in case patreon goes mad on them for whatever reason. I also mean that I have encountered some games which were ruined by the silly censorship of patreon, so even if I would have the money to donate, I would very much prefer to avoid giving it through patreon.
Also it would be additionalaly cool to have an alternative, for those who may not wanna subscribe, instead just give you a simple one-time donation, not only through the itch-paypal solution.
For example https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ provides other options than paypal. I've seem some adult games use it, and buymeacoffe seem to be okay with it as long as nothing lewd is posted on their own website, so it may be worth a try.
Sorry for the big wall of text, I just had a lot on my mind, and felt like I needed to write it all down xD
A traceback error happened, done when Celica first joins. I guess sometimes it pays to start anew, it didn't happen in the earlier version... I ignored it and things went on, so not game breaking, but still annoying.
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/dawncode/post_lost_temple_shenanigans.rpy", line 2258, in script
$ addNPC("Ashley")
File "game/dawncode/post_lost_temple_shenanigans.rpy", line 2258, in <module>
$ addNPC("Ashley")
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1155, in addNPC
updateActorPos(targetList=npcList)
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1268, in updateActorPos
alterArt(targetList[0].art, position="middle")
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1302, in alterArt
Ah, had that reported recently. Fixed in 20e, which I'll upload tomorrow if no other issues arise, tho you can go to the discord/patreon pages and check the download folder to find 20e there.
This is a new traceback, from 20e. Gallery mode though, so doesn't affect anything (I think). Would you rather the errors here, discord, or does it matter?
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/dawncode/gallery/sam_gallery.rpy", line 6, in script
$ sam.description = "Light blonde hair as long as it is messy cascades down Sam's back, vaguely reminiscent of a lion's mane. Bright green eyes shimmer with mischief, and a slight snaggletooth helps define her freckled face. Her skin is lightly tanned.\n\nShe is currently wearing a nondescript short-sleeved brown shirt and pants to cover her wiry frame, though the shirt isn't doing a great job with her large breasts. Sam seems a bit less comfortable without her armor."
File "game/dawncode/gallery/sam_gallery.rpy", line 6, in <module>
$ sam.description = "Light blonde hair as long as it is messy cascades down Sam's back, vaguely reminiscent of a lion's mane. Bright green eyes shimmer with mischief, and a slight snaggletooth helps define her freckled face. Her skin is lightly tanned.\n\nShe is currently wearing a nondescript short-sleeved brown shirt and pants to cover her wiry frame, though the shirt isn't doing a great job with her large breasts. Sam seems a bit less comfortable without her armor."
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'description'
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/dawncode/gallery/sam_gallery.rpy", line 6, in script
$ sam.description = "Light blonde hair as long as it is messy cascades down Sam's back, vaguely reminiscent of a lion's mane. Bright green eyes shimmer with mischief, and a slight snaggletooth helps define her freckled face. Her skin is lightly tanned.\n\nShe is currently wearing a nondescript short-sleeved brown shirt and pants to cover her wiry frame, though the shirt isn't doing a great job with her large breasts. Sam seems a bit less comfortable without her armor."
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/dawncode/gallery/sam_gallery.rpy", line 6, in <module>
$ sam.description = "Light blonde hair as long as it is messy cascades down Sam's back, vaguely reminiscent of a lion's mane. Bright green eyes shimmer with mischief, and a slight snaggletooth helps define her freckled face. Her skin is lightly tanned.\n\nShe is currently wearing a nondescript short-sleeved brown shirt and pants to cover her wiry frame, though the shirt isn't doing a great job with her large breasts. Sam seems a bit less comfortable without her armor."
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'description'
Discord is the fastest, since I only check here when I get an email notification, but I do get email notifications so I won't miss stuff here.
Gallery is probably gonna get ripped out next update and the content put into a 'dreams' section in camp that lets you see how any of those scenes might have gone - which should fix the issue. Thank you for reporting though, I forget things easily so that's a helpful reminder!
'Astaroth' is drawn from demonology. The MC is named Astaroth for a variety of reasons, some better than others, but I always thought Astaroth in demonology seemed like a surprisingly cool dude; teaches math and science, and the worst thing about him is laziness.
Sure thing! I love a lot of old mythology like that, and 50% of the game was me making excuses to use it LOL. Kidding, partially. But hope you're enjoying nonetheless!
Different topic, so new thread! Just want to say that I appreciate that you don't assume players are going to want X path and write the X path well, but Y and Z have little content because "X is the way it's supposed to go". I know a few developers that have done this and it irritates me. Want to further the plot, you HAVE to interact with someone that you dislike or don't care for. Here, I don't see that. Using the "Sam or Sarah or Ashley before dinner?" example, each is well written, has interesting components, and are fun. (Sarah, Fashion Model!)
I also like that you portray the succubi as more than just "great at sex" and your best bud as more than just "irritating but reliable". Sarah and Ashley have hopes and dreams that are shown. The way you portray Metatron (hey!! I didn't instantly go to Megatron this time!!) as "weapon that slowly realizes she's more than that" and Sam and Celica are both shown as more than just "friends with zero backstory or motivations". I really do love this game!
Yeah, I always hated that stuff myself, but it also adds a LOT of work to have multiple meaningful branches, so I try to find a balance.
I strongly agree on the required progression though - it makes sense for a Sarah/Metatron threesome to require progress with both, but if you just want to pursue Metatron, a core scene shouldn't require you to also have 40 affection with Sarah. It annoys me when games tie them together TOO much, though I usually like most of the girls anyways.
Anyone who hates Sarah is wrong, though. Cute little dorky fashion model.
Character depth is definitely a primary goal of the game, that hopefully becomes even more clear over the camp trust/affection scenes. I'm still learning a lot of this, but I really want them to feel like people, individuals with their own problems and goals and desires; sometimes you can help them out, sometimes they just gotta figure it out themselves, and sometimes they help each other figure it out.
Megatr-sorry I mean Metatron is a lot of fun to write, as an aside. Her camp affection scenes have been a blast. Here's hoping her romance stuff (and the CG) next update goes well!
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts! Both constructive criticism and positive feedback are always helpful, so I know what worked and what didn't.
No worries on Sarah, I think she's my favorite of the initial group, maybe because she's the most "normal" of the group? I mean, the others are a best bud with no self-preservation, a succubus with almost no filter, an archangel that slowly learning to be more than just a weapon. Celica joins the next day but she's somewhat reserved at first.
I know it makes for more work to have multiple good branches, but I like the way that you've presented everything so far!
I ran into something, When you are returning to the village the first night, before Celica joins. "...giving Ashley a chance to talk probably start another war," It would make more sense in saying "probably will start another war". Small thing, but it just seems more right to me.
When do you expect to do a revamp of the earlier stuff? Some of the early banter is still quite funny! ("You got a licence for that snark?" as an example)
It's amazing to me that more than a year later, people are still finding typos I missed in the opening sections lol. I really appreciate it, thank you!
On the revamp... it'll depend a bit on when I can get art for a new girl. I'd say definitely this year is the goal, though. I want to have a strong plan and a clear goal before I start, so I can finish it in one update cycle rather than getting stuck on revamps forever like some games lol.
I'll definitely save what I can in terms of memorable lines and ideas!
Enjoying the game greatly something I was a bit stumped on looking through the traits trying to figure out how I want to build my character, what is Kovomancy exactly?
Celica's wind training explains it in much more detail, but kovomancy is a school of Wind magic, essentially wind blades - focused on crits and bleeds, mostly scaling with a mix of Magic and Focus stats. Aeromancy is your normal wind magic, focused more on multihits and attacking first.
Thank you very much for the answer! I hadn't done the different school conversations yet as I was going physical so far. That sounds like my jam though, love dot builds and am greatly enjoying the game and looking forward to more. On another note, while it may be intentional because of the fact your doubling down it feels a bit weird to have weapon/archetype specific boosts from traits often be weighted the same as generic ones. example the 10% physical crit chance from precision, and 10% crit chance with daggers from lethality. Even more so when the generic crit one is available at a lower stat value. P.S. Poking around with wind now, Aerial Edge A and B descriptions seem wonky. B has the same description as base unless my sleep addled brain is missing something, and A has the same description just a bleed duration listed which is hard to value when the other 2 versions do not list duration.
Glad you're enjoying! Making DoTs good is a work in progress, but I always thought it was a cool build.
Generic traits weren't very well planned out honestly, at some point I'll go back and rebalance them a bit. Some are meant to just be a bit more easily available than others though.
Aerial Edge description was bugged, one increases the duration to 9 turns (so you can just have a bleed up, since some traits/abilities get stronger vs bleeding enemies), the other inflicts a stronger bleed (for more damage. Fixed for 0.20.
UGH 12 days without internet... Sam, Ashley, don't push things without knowing what they do! (In actuality, it was a huge outage that took awhile to fix)
Replaying from the start, I noticed a few things: I forgot how much I love the writing, and as you've added more graphics, the HP for things I'm fighting disappeared. Not a big deal, but it's mildly annoying wondering how much I have left to kill things!
I'm deciding who's more zany: Ashley or Sam, it's a toss-up! Now, if I could just quit calling Metatron Megatron...
Sorry to hear about your internet... I've been there before, and it sucks. Not often 12 days though, that's super rough.
Good news on the HP thing! Exact damage numbers are being introduced in 0.20, for both heals and damage. Enemy health bars I have a tentative plan for, but that's probably 0.21.
I'm glad you're enjoying the writing, it's really nice to hear. Someday I'll go back and update/revamp the opening; comparing it to my latest writing feels like a night and day difference in quality. The banter in particular...
Ashley and Sam are both goofballs, though I think Sam is probably the more genuinely lighthearted of the two. Ashley is better at clapping back though.
Especially the main story addition at the church. I wont spoil it by going into much detail but I felt sad for Metatron, I admire her determination and the strength of her faith.
Sam's story additions were lovely, she was very brave.
Truly you are making it difficult to choose a Top Waifu!
The art for Ina was lovely but I didnt really get to see it much, hopefully we will see more of Ina and her story as more comes out.
The portraits popping up when a character spoke was surprisingly useful. Helped clarify who is saying what and also gave an impression of more emotion and attachment, its hard to look at the character further up the screen and read the dialogue at the same time!
I had a lot of fun with the church scenes, the priest and Metatron were both a lot of fun to write, as were the events. The bridge between faith and fanaticism is something I've tried to reflect in her character, felt a bit more interesting than blind zealotry.
Sam can be surprisingly mature... at times. Mostly I just want each romance to feel genuinely different, and true to the character, rather than just have the MC always go in and fix their problems.
Ina art was my bad, a victim of poor planning and a stressful release week. In retrospect I should have ensured she got more last update, but she definitely will this update. She has a ridiculous number of expressions.
Good to hear the portraits are working out too, I completely agree with that last line and have generally gotten very positive feedback on the change. Glad those hours spent fucking with images wasn't wasted haha.
I forgot to mention Celica's Wind training. It was good but splitting it up into so many different schools of thought did make it a loooonnngg read. I got impatient and skim read a lot of it.
I do really like Celica though, I feel a lot of empathy for her since I'm a rather negative person. Pessimistic.
Like I said, your making it hard to choose just one of these girls as Top Waifu.
I kinda had a feeling it might be a bit too verbose for some, it's the longest training overall at around 14k words. Celica is an angel regardless, I always enjoy writing her and her malfunctions.
Well Lucifer Morningstar was meant to have been an Archangel before falling from grace to become the Devil, am I right?
So the difference between an Angel and a Devil is just a matter of opinion. Or maybe a bad day.
My opinion on Celica is that she can be very harsh, even cruel, if you fuck with her or those few she cares about. She likes to hide behind layers of cynicism and a bad temper.
But the reason she is the way she is, its because she cares too much not because she doesn't.
Yeah, I think I agree. She can be pretty... intense, but it's from a place of strong emotion and defending things (even if they're unhealthy), rather than innate cruelty or meanness.
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Yo, GM thanks for the big update been waiting for this.. CG are quite impressive and MAYA finally got her art woohoo!
"Who let the dogs out"
Thanks for your effort and your team there. ❤
PS:I wonder if metatron art will have a rework and Celica goes brr XD
Dogs are docile it woud be cool if a cat would appear hehe. "Maybe in the future"
Glad you're enjoying it! Who let the dogs out, indeed lmao.
I don't have any current plans to revamp Metatron art, aside from getting more expressions from her. What don't you like about her pose? And are you saying that you think Celica art needs a rework too?
I do like catgirls, so somewhere down the road it's very possible~
Hmm.. It would be really cute if Meta-chan shows more expressions yippers.
And for Celica my first impression of her was "A sleepy magician girl i thought that she was a loli at first lmao " Actually haha she is perfect in my opinion her personality and story so far made the impression the brr i forgot to write that she was hawt on the CGI "No need a rework for her more story and affection is a go for me yepyep .
Catgirl I'll be waiting for that day to happen nyahah😼
Anyway thanks for the reply give ya the best of regards!
Cheers!!
Hey, just trying to min-max my char to fit the archetype i play and the add of Greatsword is the thing i lack. Thank you !
Just want to know, what's the max trait requirement ? 20 ? 30 ?
I want to max 2 stats and try to get some others for RP/Discusions.
Right now I don't think anything requires more than 20, in the future some will require more. Greatsword has pretty limited trait support right now, but will be significantly expanded on next update!
Hmm. It made me think that if i change from longsword to greatsword, i'll need to deallocate all that was for longsword, isnt it ?
Or skills/traits can be use for all weapons ?
Most weapon skills/weapon-specific traits are only usable with that weapon, but you can have 2 weapons in your loadout and switch between them. I went with sword and shield + greatsword as my new combo, at least until the next update.
Weapon users mostly don't have to spend that much to get a weapon up to snuff, so you can afford to have 2-3 maxed
Do you intend on making multiple endings? If so how many endings are there gonna be?
We're far enough away that I don't have it 100% locked down. The current plan is to focus on individual or small-group harem character endings (ex. Metatron, or Metatron/Sarah), as well as larger-scale endings based on which corruption you went hard on and if you sided with one of the five big goddesses.
Sorta like, idk, Fire Emblem, where you get a couple main routes and then character postscripts based on your supports/who you married?
There will probably be a generic harem postscript as well, it's not really my thing but I know some people really want it so hopefully it won'tbe too much work lol.
New update tomorrow(ish) huh...
Contemplating starting anew just to see everything, even if all the new stuff is after you get the group as a whole. Half expecting Ashley to prank Metatron (more than she does, anyway), Metatron has had enough of the pranks and depending on how aware she is with her emotions either quite serious or pranking Ashley back. Ashley and Metatron: the prank wars!
I've officially watched too many cheesy movies, because after saying this I keep envisioning Sam and Sarah betting on who will do a better job pranking and trying to get the others involved by betting on who does a better job with the pranks and how devious or silly they are.
That aside, looking forwards to the new content!
There will actually be a surprising amount of Ashley/Metatron in the update! Though you won't be present for most of it.
I'll be redoing the opening in the update after this one (hopefully), so may want to wait to start over until then!
Sam would definitely bet on it, Sarah would have to be goaded into it... but probably doable.
Something I noticed, on the new update. Picked a fight, and haste was already "on", and it seems to be on at the start of every fight. Was this an intentional thing, or not? I'd rather decide to add haste manually over it being on to begin with. (Mostly to decide what's the best way to handle the mana)
Otherwise, liking the "how much HP is left on the critters" and new stuff a lot!
You can disable autocast in the rightclick->abilities menu. But yes, people complained about channels not defaulting to autocast, so I did that.
Probably in the next update, I'll make it toggleable when you acquire the ability, both to briefly explain channels and so you can pick whichever you want.
Otherwise, enjoy!
Ok, 26h of game and i'm guessing that "unlocking" futher corruption isn't in game yet.
I probably miss things (and that's a shame :( ) but i finally reach the city with nearly all affection/trust unlock.
I will still trying to complete both first corruptions in the future ! Gj for the quality of the game. o/
PS: You will probably see me when the next update will be released :D
Yes, sorry if it's not clear, but the corruption unlocks are coming soon.
Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for the compliment! And that you got a good amount of playtime out of it, as well!
V21 beta testing is going well and fairly stable now, I think tomorrow I'll be able to post it here. It adds another 4-ish hours of content, so you should have some payoff soon~
What a game. I'm just "starting" but it really good, perhaps a little lack of illustration.
But without futher spoiler, should i avoid either of the 3 corruptions if i don't want any "Bad Ending" ? (i kinda want the "best" one in my reach ^^")
None of the corruptions are evil! They're harmless below 20, and will unlock additional god-specific ending much later. In the meantime, getting above 20 will require you to make a conscious choice ingame. So don't worry about picking up a bit of incidental corruption, you can bang the succubi as much as you want without locking yourself into anything.
I will update the opening in a month or two, and we're starting to get lewd CGs and more custom backgrounds! Glad you're enjoying it so far!
There isn't any possibility to choose the 3 path at once, isn't it ?
I'm still struggling to choose any of them. For the moment, i'm learning all type of magic.
I hope i won't be locked with just magic learning.
I really like the game until now ! Good luck for you !
Sarah's very existence proves that Aether and Nether can coexist - though figuring out how to master both will be difficult. Abyssal is, unfortunately, completely incompatible with anything else. Gods are jealous creatures.
For the time being, don't worry about screwing yourself - it's safe to learn magic and sleep with succubi/angels. Any major choices will be telegraphed!
I'm genuinely glad to hear that! I'm finishing up the upcoming mega-update now, should be out in a few days at worst.
Frost nova broken skill but i like it a lot. Cant help you in every battle but still betta ver. of this skill can help nail every common battle without even looking at your hp bar.
Haha. Yeah, chain-stuns are pretty strong (and frustrating to play against - looking at you Aspasia). The next update will make it harder to chain CC, but won't nerf those abilities directly.
Ok, i need to think how make another imbalance combo I guess.
Played again to test my beloved Frost Nova beta and seen new status effect that “prevent” stacking skills like FN but i kinda still can freeze enemys with it (even with 75% chance its still hard). My question: Did this suppose to happen? Because i defeat Deep Woods boss, i forget what was her name so i call her Fire Baby for now.
Was what supposed to happen exactly? The Resilience status resistance?
Should my skill freeze an enemy with resistance to the status effect?
is it possible to keep my saved progress when im downloading new updates?
If you're on PC/Linux/Mac, yes, it should naturally save.
Renpy Android is kinda weird, I think you have to manually move some files around 'cuz the saves are sorta linked to the APK? I know it's possible, just don't know exactly how it works.
When does the game end? I feel like there is nothing else to do, but I don't remember encountering a screen saying something like: End of the current version.
Fair question. In the current version, get to Badon, watch the Ashley and Metatron scenes, then go back to camp and watch Ina's scene.
Please add another layer of categories sortet by spell attribute. It just gets messy if i have to scoll through all that single target spells to get to the fire spells. Furthermore I would like to have in-fight-info on the enemy which spell attributes it is weak to if there is a rock paper scissors system.
The progress menu has been completely revamped for the next update, it'll be easy to find fire spells there now! If you mean in battle, you can hide spells you don't need and manually sort in any order you want from the right-click Abilities menu.
Enemies will have some more info visible as well.
Awesome. Thanks for the answer.
Happy to help. Always nice to be able to answer requests with "yep that's coming" haha.
Where do I change the mc name?
If you're on Android, it's temporarily disabled due to a Renpy bug about text entry. Otherwise, it happens about 2 lines into the game. When I add a cheat menu (Soon(tm)), it'll be changeable at any time.
alrighty thank you
No segs scene?
There's around 30-odd of them.
Is there a list of tags/kinks that are in this game?
Not off the top of my head. It's pretty vanilla. is there something you're looking for or trying to avoid? Maybe I can answer that better.
Nope more curiosity than an aversion to anything! Thank you :)
Haha, fair enough. There are around... idk 30-40 sex scenes currently, covering a pretty decent amount of vanilla stuff. Fair number of blowjobs, missionary, doggystyle cowgirl, thighjobs, cunnilingus, footjob, paizuri, naizuri, one armpitjob for some reason, a handjob... idk I'm probably forgetting some.
YESSS THE VANILLA CONTENT!!!! URAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
I may be a basic bitch, but dammit, I like the wholesome vanilla stuff too much. Feels like it's getting kinda hard to find these days.
I was wondering if there was some way to tell if theres anything Im missing? Ive been playing for the better part of a day and Ive exhausted all dialogue options/hangout scenes. Not sure if im missing anything in the current update or not. (and the gallery doesnt help, since it doesnt have everything in it and crashes my game when I click on the stuff that is in there)
The character scenes all list their requirements, so if there isn't anything above Metatron 10 affection, there's no hidden 12 aff.
Badon is the end of the plot, will be extended in the next update soon.
Gallery will be revamped in the future back into the game proper since it was only ever meant as a way to see the choices you missed in the opening, every other lewd scene is repeatable already.
Hope you've been enjoying it, the next update is.... somewhere around 2-5 work days away!
Isn't Ashleys Badon Event hidden? It wasnt there the first time I got there
It requires 4 affection with her.
i see
Writing for this game is nice combat is very interesting as well looking forward to more. Also has there been any consideration for adding sound/visual effects for attacks it may add more impact to the combat. I apologize if this was a question that was asked before.
Glad you're enjoying the game! Yes, I'd love to get effects over time, it's just.... very much a work in progress. Finding halfway decent quality animations that are big enough to not look bad but don't take my commission budget isn't easy.
Hey, me again. Just wondering, can I upload Battle-WOLF_loop to Youtube until you do?
That one is used under CC-BY licensing from Wingless Seraph, it's called "The Howling Wolf" on this page https://wingless-seraph.net/en/material-music_boss.html
I'm not sure if this is their official channel or just reuploaded it, but here is a youtube link for it
Thanks for the info.
I just want to add this, I appreciate that while the choices are (mostly) cosmetic, it still has an effect and they respond appropriately. I was playing a game that it made zero difference if the MC was a saint or an absolutely slimeball, the next part was exactly the same (so an illusion of a choice). I HATE that, it's like "what's the point of playing a given way if the results are the same?" Seriously doubt that if I was a jerk to Celica that she'd be OK with it (lightning storm, maybe...or something worse!). Same with most of the others, I think if I was a jerk they wouldn't be anywhere near as friendly (Sam, might still be OK)
Just need to wait for the update, and see if Sarah will be OK with a headpat!
Glad you're enjoying it! I try to reference the choices where possible, though it's not always obvious ingame that a given line has been swapped out based on a past choice. The 'major' choices you'll make (one upcoming soon) will have much larger effects.
Too many actual branches and writing the game becomes unfeasible, sadly.
I don't mind if it's not obvious, just that if the MC is nice or a jerk, there should be a difference in how the others respond. Looking forwards to seeing how Ashley and Metatron will react to each other once Metatron had thawed and Ashley quits pranking Metatron (errr...Ashley WILL stop pranking Metatron, right?)
I didn't mean adding a headpat option to Sarah, just if she'd be OK with it :) I figure Maya will be the only one with headpats (she is a dog after all) but that doesn't stop me from wondering if the demure succubus likes headpats!
Oh, I'm sure Sarah would be into it. That actually sounds like a fun little scene when I get further down her romance route; exploring the succubi trying to deal with relationships that are more than just sex, and the emotional aspects of it considering how attuned to emotion they are.
Thanks for the idea!
And Ashley will get a bit better, maybe...
I clicked on this because the art work
Interesting! That's good to know. I've been fortunate to work with some very talented artists.
Same!
I'm not sure exactly what you're requesting, sorry, but I am trying to improve the android version UI so there's less reliance on hover tooltips there. The next update will make the progress menu more mobile-friendly at least.
Is the problem that tap and hold tooltips aren't working?
Aha, no harm done! There are 3 files in the download section, one each for Windows/Linux, Android, and Macintosh.
I'm not fussed about pronouns, sir is fine.
If you do end up playing the android version, I'm open to feedback on how to improve it! It's hard for me to test and I don't get many comments on it despite it being half my downloads on itch haha.
Metatron its so cute aaaaa, anyway good game fr :D
As I like to say, Metatron is an angel in more ways than one! I've always had a soft spot for kuuderes that melt into being incredibly sweet, and Metatron hits that itch for me haha.
Glad you're enjoying! And hopefully Metatron's lewd scene/CG next update will continue delivering~
COOL, can't wait for the update,but take your time tho
I'm tyring to finish it as fast as I can, but it's still a little ways out, probably a week+. Sorry for the delay!
Yes. Kuudere best.
Hell yeah, buddy. The thaw is divine!
Metatron smiling caused me to like this game even more than I already do, seeing her understanding her emotions and not just being a weapon is wonderful. Sarah's still my favorite, but Metatron is rapidly approaching a rival to her! Think Sarah and Metatron would be up for a threesome?
Curiosity question, does it ultimately matter who the partner is for the adventure parts? Each has their pros and cons, but will I be able to beat an area as easily with Celica as I will with Sarah or Sam?
Metatron is an angel in more ways than one! And yes actually, those two are probably the most likely for a threesome, tied with Sarah/Ashley, and liable to be the first I write.
It depends on the area. Some allies have better team support, and some may have special scenes in some areas, ex. Celica gets a big moment in the slaver encounter. None of them are super important though.
I'd probably say that Maya and Aspasia are the most underwhelming party members currently, but not bad with a support build.
I know this is a 2 months old message but what is the big Celica scene? I made sure to do that encounter with her as my partner and she wasn't involved at all?
She has a few comments on some of the routes, and depending on your choices near the end she may take matters into her own hands with the boss in an extra moment that gets referenced later in camp. It sounds like it might be easier to miss them than I realized, though.
Are there no further zones/story after the floodplains/Badon or am I missing a trigger or something? I'm hoping the latter cause I've thoroughly been enjoying this game so far. Gameplay feels a little generic, but I can't say I don't love me a solid rpg, especially with such well written characters and dialogue. Also nice pfp lmao
Correct, current zones/story ends at Badon. The next update, probably ~2 weeks out (maybe), will push it forward.
Glad you're enjoying the game, and thanks for commenting! I'm slowly improving the gameplay as I go, making an entire engine from scratch as a newbie coder is an uphill battle.
Yeah cool game and all, but i need the afternoon soundtrack.
Uhhhh I forget if that's 2:23 am https://peritune.com/blog/2018/09/11/realm/ or realm night https://peritune.com/blog/2018/09/11/realm/
Oh boy Sam looks divine now im glad she got a rework. Kinda buggy when selecting the skills "using cp" but other than that everything else is cool looking forward for Maya art
Cheers Dev!
I'm glad you're enjoying it, and the new Sam art! Maya art is definitely in this update, she's super cute, jfc did a great job with her. I should probably preview more of her expressions lol.
Would you mind explaining more of 'Kinda buggy when selecting the skills "using cp"'? I'm happy to try to fix it, just not sure what the issue is.
Oh yes about that when i reset the game to see the changes that part was fine. But on the part when i needed to put my stat "Time to get swole" before fighting the abyss thingy when clicking that option the game keeps crashing so i just fight without stat and skill like a champ apart Meta-chan did the job.
Maybe is just my tablet but is not really a big deal for me.
Thanks for replying again best dev ever. Cheers
It works in the new version, so apparently whatever I changed in this update fixes that bug LOL.
Thanks for the report, and your kind words! Here's to ever-fewer bugs.
Oh it's 100% witty banter always makes me laugh.
Glad to hear it!
Android release when?
The "com.cryswar.divinedawn-release.apk" file is android. I should probably rename the files at some point, just been using what renpy spits out for the name.
thank you very much!
Doesn't it already have the android logo next to it though?
It does, but it doesn't cost me anything more than like, 10 seconds of my time to rename each file to make their usage clearer.
Couple of things, does Metatron auto-revive? I was fighting the hob shaman and his cronies and Metatron would go done to zilch (or lower) and at the end of the round, she's got 5 hp. Either the spell I cast on her caused it (which still wouldn't make sense) or Metatron can't be defeated, YAY! Was about the only was I was able to beat the shaman too...
Regarding Maya, I found "head pat?" option BEYOND hilarious, more so because Metatron was my partner. Seeing Metatron petting Maya and Maya's response was wonderful!
One question which may influence things down the road. I keep my stats fairly balanced, Strength and Magic will be higher but it's like Strength and Magic are 11 or 12, and the rest are around 6 or 7. How important are each of the stats? Strength and magic are obvious, but am I better suited to having strength and magic the focus, or is more balanced a better way to go? Some of that was because I needed 5 insight to learn some pieces of magic, but now I'm wondering if I should rearrange things a bit...
So normally, an ally that goes to 0 hp stays there until healed, and can't act until they get above 0hp. Regen was erroneously kicking in and essentially reviving her every turn. Fixed now, thanks for the report!
Maya patpats are the way and the truth, and Metatron is rapidly becoming team big sis lmao.
Your primary stat/stats should always be capped for easiest progression, I usually just set them to auto-grow. The rest... kinda depends on what you're doing. 10 focus is enough for 1 turn cooldown reduction, or 10 insight lets you ignore most armor/resistance. 5-10 vitality also gives access to some great traits.
You can respec as needed, it's a bit cheat-y but the important thing is to have fun.
Glitch report, maybe this is fixed and it doesn't actually affect anything, but trying to defeat the slavers in the third area before Badon resulted in Metatron's pic showing in the background. She didn't join the bad guys, just her picture was there, and didn't go away until I talked to her at camp.
One thing I do like about returning to earlier areas is you might run across a couple of teammates. I've seen Sarah and Ashley, and Sam and Ashley so far, and it's neat seeing others training too.
Thanks for the report. I've heard some weirdness about Metatron there, will try to sort it.
Yeah, I'd like to add a few more characters interacting or at least showing up during exploration. It's fun, flavorful, and adds a sense of life to things. Could even have 'em stick around for a surprise battle or something; I don't want to make the game 3+ character parties, but in some situations it'd make sense to have it happen.
metatron bae
This is correct in all regards.
This is more oversight than anything, but I was fighting the wolf alpha and his two buddies. It was down to just the alpha, but it was still showing wolf b (who was already defeated) was still having poison damage...
I was a bit shocked at how easily the hob shaman and his two friends beat me, guessing "level 13" is the minimum because I'm at level 12 and he slaughtered me and Celica! Is there an ideal partner or did RNG just go against me again? (I think RNG hates me for the most part)
Question on being attuned to magic so I can learn Aether magic. Magic is at 11 but it shows as being unable to learn it. Is Attuned a skill or trait learned, or is there some other thing I'm not getting because if it says "every 10 of magic" and I don't see if anywhere, and I missing something?
(Sorry if I keep bothering ya here, it's just easier for me!)
No worries, it's fine to post here, I check it 1-2 times a day.
I've heard the poison thing, not sure why yet but I'll look into it. Probably just order of doing poisons vs clearing dead enemies from list, though it's possible the poison is killing the enemy? idk.
The hob shaman and co are level 18, enemies in the Expanse range from 13 to 16 otherwise. It's a bit of a jump from Outskirts, tho it's 9-13. idk. I feel like the level req could probably do a better job of explaining you can enter at 13 but should probably be 16+ to beat it?
You can learn one school of magic for every point of attunement (shown in the right-click stats menu). If you started with magic that takes up your first slot, or learned one elsewhere?
On the levels, I was def under leveled for the hobs - the problems I had with the lone hob should have clued in that I wouldn't make it. As far as explaining "level expected to beat it" goes, I would wait and see how many are struggling with the hobs. Might be a good idea, but barring boss fight I did OK at level 12, so I'm not sure it's needed yet.
Regarding the attunement, I started with wind magic, so that would have been the initial school. I was able to learn water, fire, and nether without any issues, but Aether said I needed to be attuned. Does that mean that all of those are in the same school? I would assume wind fire water earth are all just "school of elemental magic", would nether count for that too?
Having gotten Metatron at high affection, it's amazing at seeing her transform. Wondering if I get Aspraia to high affection will she transform similarity? Seeing Metatron smile was really nice, and it's interesting seeing how she's evolving with both Ashley and Sarah. Still think if there's another race war it'll be because Ashley pranked Metatron too many times. I'm not sure who has less self-perservation, Sam or Ashley. Also, and I can't stress this enough, seeing all the friends evolve has been really wonderful. Finding out WHY Sam and Celica dislike each other, Celica's motivations in general, Metatron slowly understanding emotions and her attachment to Sarah and MAYBE Ashley, it is really well done. Both trust and affection dialogues are really fun to read!
Attunement should block you off of the base elements too. The checks for those might not be working right, idk, I'll check.
The character growth is definitely one of my favorite aspects of the game, glad to hear you were enjoying it! Metatron has gone through a lot of growth already, and everyone has their goals and dreams. I'm really looking forwards to explaining more of them, their pasts and futures, and especially how they all interact. Not enough of that yet.
Will fit in what I can of that this coming update, aside from the mega Deepwoods stuff and Metatron/Celica lewd starts I mostly just want to write.
Having gotten more affection and trust out of Metatron, Sarah, and Ashley I've really amazed at how detailed and thorough the affection and trust things are. Ashley had no problem talking about aspects but Sarah was... wow, weird to see her so mad about it. Ashley being Compassion and Greed seems odd but does explain a few things! It's also interesting seeing Metatron warming up to Sarah, almost like a big sister might. Rather suspect Ashley and Metatron will never really get along though...
One thing I was curious on, when you first start out going to Badon, Ashley is willing to do sex battle training, but that option is not available for Sarah Is it because Ashley is just more open about it, will Sarah eventually be able to sex battle the the player, will they tag team the MC... (no! Bad musical! Don't let fantasy get in the way!) ANYWAY, what's the story on why Sarah starts off not being able to sex battle? I'm just curious.
Hey, glad you're enjoying the character interactions! They're honestly my favorite part of the game to work on. I can't wait to do more between the girls as well haha, Sarah and Metatron in particular.
Ashley and Metatron... well, you might enjoy the next update if you're interested in that.
As for sex battles - the honest answer is that they're coded very poorly, take a lot of work, and (imo) all feel too similar. I have a plan to fix that in the next few months, but until then I don't want to add any more on the current, mediocre system.
Rest assured that Sarah will get a proper one, making full use of her various... attributes, when that gets fixed.
Group 'battles' will be possible then too!
I have a request, could you put the soundtrack on youtube? I have the demi human song and Celica's theme stuck in my head and I want to listen to them when not at my pc.
Only for the songs I actually own, but... I guess I could do that actually? It never occurred to me before lol.
The versions I use in the game are compressed, but you can find them in the game/audio folder in the meantime! Celica and Maya's themes are named as such until such time as I decide their 'official' names.
Alright sounds good do tell me when you post the songs so I may know.
How's that working out by the way?
I'm gonna be real with you here chief, I have the youtube thing set up and ready to go, but I've been struggling to decide what to name the songs. Probably kinda sad, but I wanted to give them unique, memorable names, and I've been stretched thin with commissions and stuff.
Sorry for the delay, but don't worry, I haven't forgotten!
No worries just checking in, Might I recommend naming Celica's "The Curious Mage" or something like that I feel the word curious really fits how it sounds.
Now, I love reading but damn does training magic have SO much of it I found it hard to read things after a while and sadly had to put the game down. This not to say the reading is bad as I love it and it has made me laugh quite a bit. The only advice I'd give is to try to make the unique character encounters a bit less challenging I got two shot by the girl at the bridge. '
Also I'd like to ask if the slots of magic also count towards any progression of magic like going from one rank in fire to another, I ask because I used all of mine to learn all the magic and I don't know if it's the type of thing where you can be jack of all trades but not very good at any of them type of deal.
Wind and Aether magic can get pretty wordy, since they're very technical. Most of the others aren't as bad. Glad to hear you enjoyed the writing overall!
Right now there's only one rank of each magic, but there will be more ranks in the future, and they'll also take attunement slots. As a mage, it should be fine to pick up one rank of most, but you probably won't be able to supermax every element in the long term. Definitely won't have the trait points for it anyways haha.
In terms of Aether and Nether magic I just decided to not mess with that in fear of long term consequences.
The storywriting is totally ultimate here, but there are not enough visuals, graphics, the things to took at (you now why)
Anyway, this game seem to have a lot of potential, so thanks for it :)
Art costs money, a lot of money, compared to what I can afford. It's a work in progress. Glad you enjoyed the storytelling!
I understand, and absolutely agree. The story is just too good to let this game stay the way it is currently.
This project should be pumped full with money!
I just wish I wouldn't be just a NEET, so I could contribute to great games like this. Because damn sure I have a lot of free time, I may as well try to learn how to draw some artwork for this game, but honestly I can promise nothing.
Anyway, I suppose there should be at least some pepole who are interested in contributing free artwork for this game. Maybe it would be good to add some notice to some game menu, that you are looking for free artists, just in case you accept any third-party artwork at all. As I remember there was a scene with Sarah, that really looked like it was made by some other artist, beacuse Sarah does not have a red colored stripe in her hair on her standing images.
Hah, don't worry, I feel you. I have NOWHERE near enough money to support even 10% of the creators I want to. Up until a few years ago, I was kinda in NEET territory too.
I am spending basically everything I get from patreon on commissions so we're slowly getting art/music sorted - a fair number of character themes are custom work now, and I'm working with a number of artists for backgrounds, character art, and CGs. Reaching out to two possibilities today actually.
Not sure what the legality of free art is, especially for commercial usage - I'll check into it. We've gotten some really nice fanart over time though, so maybe?
Cool, I'm also not sure about the legal stuff, but maybe I can try to point you in the right direction, as I already have some slight clues about it.
In case you would like to protect the third-party assets contributed into your project from being NTR-ed away by copyright lunatic trolls, then you may need to make your contributors sign a so called "CLA", that means "Contributor License Agreement", what would make it sure, that you are allowed to use the third-party assets in your project, while the contributors can also be happy about their rights. At least I suppose it works this way in case of big and important open source projects. The huge drawback of this is that the thing makes it impossible to accept stuff from random anonymous pepole on the internet, so I would advise against it.
A probably much better way to be legally cool, is to formally define in lawyerspeak some kind of general auto-applying policy on every third-party contributions you may receive. For example make a public statement of that everyone who posts into some kind of special forum topic on your discord, accepts to allow you to use their stuff under a Creative Commons license. I know that it doesn't sound very convincig this way, but for example have a look here, to see how the thing actually works anyway.
But sure you need a lawyer for this, and that would mean again, the need for more money.
So, back to the topic on money. There is a common saying in my country, which if translated to english means something like this:
"It's better to stand on two legs than one."
So, I mean that I noticed, you do not have a subscribestar account, and only rely on patreon for getting money. It's rather common amongst adult games to also accept support through https://subscribestar.adult/ , just in case patreon goes mad on them for whatever reason. I also mean that I have encountered some games which were ruined by the silly censorship of patreon, so even if I would have the money to donate, I would very much prefer to avoid giving it through patreon.
Also it would be additionalaly cool to have an alternative, for those who may not wanna subscribe, instead just give you a simple one-time donation, not only through the itch-paypal solution.
For example https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ provides other options than paypal. I've seem some adult games use it, and buymeacoffe seem to be okay with it as long as nothing lewd is posted on their own website, so it may be worth a try.
Sorry for the big wall of text, I just had a lot on my mind, and felt like I needed to write it all down xD
Anyway, I wish you good luck :)
Thanks for the info and suggestions! I'll definitely ponder them and see about contributions. I will also look into subscribestar and buymeacoffee.
Wait art costs money? You mean the supplies right? I thought it was free...
The backgrounds are generally free-use stuff., but characters and monsters I paid for with Patreonbux
ahh alr
A traceback error happened, done when Celica first joins. I guess sometimes it pays to start anew, it didn't happen in the earlier version... I ignored it and things went on, so not game breaking, but still annoying.
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/dawncode/post_lost_temple_shenanigans.rpy", line 2258, in script
$ addNPC("Ashley")
File "game/dawncode/post_lost_temple_shenanigans.rpy", line 2258, in <module>
$ addNPC("Ashley")
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1155, in addNPC
updateActorPos(targetList=npcList)
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1268, in updateActorPos
alterArt(targetList[0].art, position="middle")
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1302, in alterArt
renpy.show(tags, at_list=[getattr(store, position)])
AttributeError: 'StoreModule' object has no attribute 'middle'
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/dawncode/post_lost_temple_shenanigans.rpy", line 2258, in script
$ addNPC("Ashley")
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/dawncode/post_lost_temple_shenanigans.rpy", line 2258, in <module>
$ addNPC("Ashley")
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1155, in addNPC
updateActorPos(targetList=npcList)
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1268, in updateActorPos
alterArt(targetList[0].art, position="middle")
File "game/dawncode/functions.rpy", line 1302, in alterArt
renpy.show(tags, at_list=[getattr(store, position)])
AttributeError: 'StoreModule' object has no attribute 'middle'
Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Divine Dawn 0.20c
Fri May 27 21:44:04 2022
Ah, had that reported recently. Fixed in 20e, which I'll upload tomorrow if no other issues arise, tho you can go to the discord/patreon pages and check the download folder to find 20e there.
This is a new traceback, from 20e. Gallery mode though, so doesn't affect anything (I think). Would you rather the errors here, discord, or does it matter?
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/dawncode/gallery/sam_gallery.rpy", line 6, in script
$ sam.description = "Light blonde hair as long as it is messy cascades down Sam's back, vaguely reminiscent of a lion's mane. Bright green eyes shimmer with mischief, and a slight snaggletooth helps define her freckled face. Her skin is lightly tanned.\n\nShe is currently wearing a nondescript short-sleeved brown shirt and pants to cover her wiry frame, though the shirt isn't doing a great job with her large breasts. Sam seems a bit less comfortable without her armor."
File "game/dawncode/gallery/sam_gallery.rpy", line 6, in <module>
$ sam.description = "Light blonde hair as long as it is messy cascades down Sam's back, vaguely reminiscent of a lion's mane. Bright green eyes shimmer with mischief, and a slight snaggletooth helps define her freckled face. Her skin is lightly tanned.\n\nShe is currently wearing a nondescript short-sleeved brown shirt and pants to cover her wiry frame, though the shirt isn't doing a great job with her large breasts. Sam seems a bit less comfortable without her armor."
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'description'
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/dawncode/gallery/sam_gallery.rpy", line 6, in script
$ sam.description = "Light blonde hair as long as it is messy cascades down Sam's back, vaguely reminiscent of a lion's mane. Bright green eyes shimmer with mischief, and a slight snaggletooth helps define her freckled face. Her skin is lightly tanned.\n\nShe is currently wearing a nondescript short-sleeved brown shirt and pants to cover her wiry frame, though the shirt isn't doing a great job with her large breasts. Sam seems a bit less comfortable without her armor."
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/dawncode/gallery/sam_gallery.rpy", line 6, in <module>
$ sam.description = "Light blonde hair as long as it is messy cascades down Sam's back, vaguely reminiscent of a lion's mane. Bright green eyes shimmer with mischief, and a slight snaggletooth helps define her freckled face. Her skin is lightly tanned.\n\nShe is currently wearing a nondescript short-sleeved brown shirt and pants to cover her wiry frame, though the shirt isn't doing a great job with her large breasts. Sam seems a bit less comfortable without her armor."
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'description'
Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Divine Dawn 0.20e
Sat May 28 12:44:32 2022
Discord is the fastest, since I only check here when I get an email notification, but I do get email notifications so I won't miss stuff here.
Gallery is probably gonna get ripped out next update and the content put into a 'dreams' section in camp that lets you see how any of those scenes might have gone - which should fix the issue. Thank you for reporting though, I forget things easily so that's a helpful reminder!
Is the default name being "Astaroth" an Easter egg? I mean, this kind of game does seem to only happen Once in a Lifetime so...
'Astaroth' is drawn from demonology. The MC is named Astaroth for a variety of reasons, some better than others, but I always thought Astaroth in demonology seemed like a surprisingly cool dude; teaches math and science, and the worst thing about him is laziness.
Diddnt know that, never bothered looking, does sound pretty cool though! Thanks for answering!
Sure thing! I love a lot of old mythology like that, and 50% of the game was me making excuses to use it LOL. Kidding, partially. But hope you're enjoying nonetheless!
Different topic, so new thread! Just want to say that I appreciate that you don't assume players are going to want X path and write the X path well, but Y and Z have little content because "X is the way it's supposed to go". I know a few developers that have done this and it irritates me. Want to further the plot, you HAVE to interact with someone that you dislike or don't care for. Here, I don't see that. Using the "Sam or Sarah or Ashley before dinner?" example, each is well written, has interesting components, and are fun. (Sarah, Fashion Model!)
I also like that you portray the succubi as more than just "great at sex" and your best bud as more than just "irritating but reliable". Sarah and Ashley have hopes and dreams that are shown. The way you portray Metatron (hey!! I didn't instantly go to Megatron this time!!) as "weapon that slowly realizes she's more than that" and Sam and Celica are both shown as more than just "friends with zero backstory or motivations". I really do love this game!
Yeah, I always hated that stuff myself, but it also adds a LOT of work to have multiple meaningful branches, so I try to find a balance.
I strongly agree on the required progression though - it makes sense for a Sarah/Metatron threesome to require progress with both, but if you just want to pursue Metatron, a core scene shouldn't require you to also have 40 affection with Sarah. It annoys me when games tie them together TOO much, though I usually like most of the girls anyways.
Anyone who hates Sarah is wrong, though. Cute little dorky fashion model.
Character depth is definitely a primary goal of the game, that hopefully becomes even more clear over the camp trust/affection scenes. I'm still learning a lot of this, but I really want them to feel like people, individuals with their own problems and goals and desires; sometimes you can help them out, sometimes they just gotta figure it out themselves, and sometimes they help each other figure it out.
Megatr-sorry I mean Metatron is a lot of fun to write, as an aside. Her camp affection scenes have been a blast. Here's hoping her romance stuff (and the CG) next update goes well!
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts! Both constructive criticism and positive feedback are always helpful, so I know what worked and what didn't.
No worries on Sarah, I think she's my favorite of the initial group, maybe because she's the most "normal" of the group? I mean, the others are a best bud with no self-preservation, a succubus with almost no filter, an archangel that slowly learning to be more than just a weapon. Celica joins the next day but she's somewhat reserved at first.
I know it makes for more work to have multiple good branches, but I like the way that you've presented everything so far!
I ran into something, When you are returning to the village the first night, before Celica joins. "...giving Ashley a chance to talk probably start another war," It would make more sense in saying "probably will start another war". Small thing, but it just seems more right to me.
When do you expect to do a revamp of the earlier stuff? Some of the early banter is still quite funny! ("You got a licence for that snark?" as an example)
It's amazing to me that more than a year later, people are still finding typos I missed in the opening sections lol. I really appreciate it, thank you!
On the revamp... it'll depend a bit on when I can get art for a new girl. I'd say definitely this year is the goal, though. I want to have a strong plan and a clear goal before I start, so I can finish it in one update cycle rather than getting stuck on revamps forever like some games lol.
I'll definitely save what I can in terms of memorable lines and ideas!
Enjoying the game greatly something I was a bit stumped on looking through the traits trying to figure out how I want to build my character, what is Kovomancy exactly?
Celica's wind training explains it in much more detail, but kovomancy is a school of Wind magic, essentially wind blades - focused on crits and bleeds, mostly scaling with a mix of Magic and Focus stats. Aeromancy is your normal wind magic, focused more on multihits and attacking first.
Thank you very much for the answer! I hadn't done the different school conversations yet as I was going physical so far. That sounds like my jam though, love dot builds and am greatly enjoying the game and looking forward to more.
On another note, while it may be intentional because of the fact your doubling down it feels a bit weird to have weapon/archetype specific boosts from traits often be weighted the same as generic ones. example the 10% physical crit chance from precision, and 10% crit chance with daggers from lethality. Even more so when the generic crit one is available at a lower stat value.
P.S. Poking around with wind now, Aerial Edge A and B descriptions seem wonky. B has the same description as base unless my sleep addled brain is missing something, and A has the same description just a bleed duration listed which is hard to value when the other 2 versions do not list duration.
Glad you're enjoying! Making DoTs good is a work in progress, but I always thought it was a cool build.
Generic traits weren't very well planned out honestly, at some point I'll go back and rebalance them a bit. Some are meant to just be a bit more easily available than others though.
Aerial Edge description was bugged, one increases the duration to 9 turns (so you can just have a bleed up, since some traits/abilities get stronger vs bleeding enemies), the other inflicts a stronger bleed (for more damage. Fixed for 0.20.
UGH 12 days without internet... Sam, Ashley, don't push things without knowing what they do! (In actuality, it was a huge outage that took awhile to fix)
Replaying from the start, I noticed a few things: I forgot how much I love the writing, and as you've added more graphics, the HP for things I'm fighting disappeared. Not a big deal, but it's mildly annoying wondering how much I have left to kill things!
I'm deciding who's more zany: Ashley or Sam, it's a toss-up! Now, if I could just quit calling Metatron Megatron...
Sorry to hear about your internet... I've been there before, and it sucks. Not often 12 days though, that's super rough.
Good news on the HP thing! Exact damage numbers are being introduced in 0.20, for both heals and damage. Enemy health bars I have a tentative plan for, but that's probably 0.21.
I'm glad you're enjoying the writing, it's really nice to hear. Someday I'll go back and update/revamp the opening; comparing it to my latest writing feels like a night and day difference in quality. The banter in particular...
Ashley and Sam are both goofballs, though I think Sam is probably the more genuinely lighthearted of the two. Ashley is better at clapping back though.
0.19e was fascinating.
Especially the main story addition at the church. I wont spoil it by going into much detail but I felt sad for Metatron, I admire her determination and the strength of her faith.
Sam's story additions were lovely, she was very brave.
Truly you are making it difficult to choose a Top Waifu!
The art for Ina was lovely but I didnt really get to see it much, hopefully we will see more of Ina and her story as more comes out.
The portraits popping up when a character spoke was surprisingly useful. Helped clarify who is saying what and also gave an impression of more emotion and attachment, its hard to look at the character further up the screen and read the dialogue at the same time!
Naisu~ Glad you're digging it!
I had a lot of fun with the church scenes, the priest and Metatron were both a lot of fun to write, as were the events. The bridge between faith and fanaticism is something I've tried to reflect in her character, felt a bit more interesting than blind zealotry.
Sam can be surprisingly mature... at times. Mostly I just want each romance to feel genuinely different, and true to the character, rather than just have the MC always go in and fix their problems.
Ina art was my bad, a victim of poor planning and a stressful release week. In retrospect I should have ensured she got more last update, but she definitely will this update. She has a ridiculous number of expressions.
Good to hear the portraits are working out too, I completely agree with that last line and have generally gotten very positive feedback on the change. Glad those hours spent fucking with images wasn't wasted haha.
I forgot to mention Celica's Wind training. It was good but splitting it up into so many different schools of thought did make it a loooonnngg read. I got impatient and skim read a lot of it.
I do really like Celica though, I feel a lot of empathy for her since I'm a rather negative person. Pessimistic.
Like I said, your making it hard to choose just one of these girls as Top Waifu.
I kinda had a feeling it might be a bit too verbose for some, it's the longest training overall at around 14k words. Celica is an angel regardless, I always enjoy writing her and her malfunctions.
Well Lucifer Morningstar was meant to have been an Archangel before falling from grace to become the Devil, am I right?
So the difference between an Angel and a Devil is just a matter of opinion. Or maybe a bad day.
My opinion on Celica is that she can be very harsh, even cruel, if you fuck with her or those few she cares about. She likes to hide behind layers of cynicism and a bad temper.
But the reason she is the way she is, its because she cares too much not because she doesn't.
Yeah, I think I agree. She can be pretty... intense, but it's from a place of strong emotion and defending things (even if they're unhealthy), rather than innate cruelty or meanness.